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American Strong Ale

25th Anniversary

I think that I've simply lost what little love that I ever had for beers such as the Firestone Walker Anniversary Series. I mean I am glad that they are making them - it shows a solid commitment to a craft - but when ones looks at the blend that has gone into 25, the only thing that comes to mind is, "would it really matter what was blended at this point?" There's such a colossal number of incredibly potent flavors and barrels in the mix, isn't this just a hodge-podge that would most likely...

9 Ladies Dancing

Turbid brown pour with a level of carbonation that was better than I thought it might be after this length of time. Somewhat surprisingly, it does meet the taste parameters that one might expect. Not only that, it doesn't deliver any cardboard either. That seems unlikely at this age, but it manages to do that. What it doesn't do (unsurprisingly) is bring a lively, fresh feel! It looks, and drinks its age. There's a little coffee, some vanilla, the cocoa nibs are there, and a mingling of dark...

Firestone Eleven

Another cellar-dweller. Murky dark brown pour, no head to speak of at this age, but all the nose you can handle. Barrel aged alcohol still hanging on, even now. Some black flecks of sediment. Same can be said of the taste profile. Is it distinguishable in any meaningful way? No really. is it pretty thin? Yes, of course. Does it still give a mild burn and do you know what you are drinking? Yes, you bet you do. Obviously I should have drunk this x+ years ago, I understand, but it’s not horrible...

Capricho Oscuro – Batch 2

12 oz bottle, many thanks go out to Steve for the chance to try this one. On the neck label the Batch # (2), and the bottle count (205/450) are noted. Pour is a dark, chestnut brown with quite a lot of sediment, a lovely rich, coffee colored head, some which brings with it some decent retention and lace. Big 'ole which malty notes with some sherry and alcohol. Tastes reflect that, but come in with a bit more subtlety. The sherry and alcohol notes are reflected early, but then we get more...

Ubu Ale

I had a few of these fro the first time back in the Summer of 2010, but this review is from a 12 oz bottle. Pour is a dark brown with blackish, red highlights and a resplendent, high, mocha colored frothy head. Head retention and lace are both very good. An extremely solid, malty nose suggests depth, and a lot of it. Tastes don't quite deliver what the nose suggested, but still give a hearty malt based beer with some alcohol and a decent dose of bitterness. A tiny amount of oxidized, sweet...

The Angel’s Share – Brandy Barrel-Aged

375 mL bottle, corked and caged bottle from Mac's, Atlanta, GA, USA. $14 for the privilege. 11.5% on the label. It's flat. 100% flat. Was pretty positive that it would be even before I bought it, but it still needs to be recorded. The beer pours with a dark brown, mid-viscosity and obviously zero head, lace or retention. The nose and tastes give what amounts to be a glass of sherry. Lots of rum & raisin ice-cream notes, other dark fruits, brown sugar and light, evaporating alcohol. A few woody...

Firestone 13 – Anniversary Ale

Notes added 03/06/2022 I think this is now 12 years old, possibly a little more. I was inspired to crack it on the basis of just ordering the 25th Anniversary Ale from FW. I still have a XII and an Eleven left to crack. They’ll be opened very soon. From a distance a jet black body but with plenty of red-brown highlights at the edges when the light hits it just so. When the glass is tipped way back, and the volume of beer is reduced significantly, the body is almost completely dark scarlet red....

Jubel 2010

22 oz, black waxed affair (as Abyss). Pour is a superb looking, garnet color with some tremendous clarity. Head is small, leaves little lace but is a pleasing tea hue. Attractive. Nose has a rich, sugary, molasses light liquor note that is replicated in the taste t a n extent, but the beer feels a little thinner than the nose suggests. The tastes offer a touch more alcohol than the nose, plus some mild hop character. This beer reminds me a lot of Fuller's Vintage Ale, except it seems to have a...

Lukcy Basartd Ale

22 oz bottle from Hop City, Atlanta, GA, USA. Magnificent clarity on the garnet pour with a head that is initially good but fades quite quickly. A little lace. The color is very attractive. There's a big, 'ole piney West Coast nose upfront with this one. Quite herbal too. Tastes are largely as expected with drying hops, aggressive bitterness and some hot alcohol, but this beer lacks the richness and complete, malt intensity that the other Bastards do. It feels like Arrogant Lite, and the...

Legend

$9.68 from Euro Street Market in Jacksonville Beach, FL. The red wax on the bottle is extremely thick and a big pain in the ass to get through. 2009 vintage with the date embossed in the wax as per a seal. The pour is pretty much un-carbonated and yields a murky, dirty brown body. Not attractive and little or no head. Nose has an enormous amount of oak and associated liquor notes. Very good aroma. Tastes reflect the nose and there are a lot of residual sugars, sherry notes and some warming...

30th Anniversary – Grand Cru

750 mL with a tight cork and cage. BIG pop on opening - take care! The beer really does look magnificent in the DFH signature glass. There is a deep, garnet color with some super clarity, and a remarkable, high head with good lace. The head is both creamy and rocky and has an of-white color that is truly impressive. OK, I have to admit that I was hoping that this was going to be a Belgian Dark of some description (given the Grand Cru moniker), but of course there is no reason why that should...

He’Brew Jewbelation Fourteen

22 oz bottle, Hop City, Atlanta, GA, USA. In general I'm a massive fan of the malt-based beers that Shmaltz has been putting out in the series, and Jewbelation has been a constant source of delight for me. As a result I was excited to pick this up and to try it. Off the top this is not your typical American Barleywine, so don't expect a hoppy concoction in the bottle - that just wouldn't be a Shmaltz beer! The pour is basically a jet black pour with a HUGE, bubbly, mocha head. Really massive....

Bell’s 25th Anniversary Ale

12 oz single from Hop City, Atlanta, GA, USA. Poured into the DFH signature glass, the beer pours a very attractive color (a copper/garnet body) but has a somewhat disappointing head with only a tiny amount of retention. A small film forms on the surface of the beer with a tiny, white collar. It lacks the richness and noisy pour of the best beers in the style. Nose offers an aroma that I would characterize as a fruity, American DIPA effect. Some alcohol. The tastes reflect the nose, BUT there...

Wilco Tango Foxtrot

22 oz bottle from Hop City, Atlanta, GA, USA. (Potentially) excellent value for money as usual from Lagunitas, the usual presentation. Pour is a very nice red-brown with nice clarity in the body. Off-white head that produces some sticky lace; retention not great. The nose has a surprising level of green hop presence. Really quite strong. Tastes are a little mixed where the hops fade from their aroma level but still hang around, and then the malt bill kicks in. It still remains quite "organic"...

Firestone 10 – Anniversary Ale

Huge thanks go out to Grant for sharing this at the Brick Store. Dark mahogany pour that produced a pretty good head considering the age of the beer, the style and the ABV. One of the most distinct parts of this beer (at least visually) were the legs. The aroma is quite complex with a fairly large dose of vanilla. As Gregg pointed out, you could certainly detect a sort of old, musty hop note in the aroma too. Smooth and warming in the mouth and a mild burn on the way down. Definitely manifests...

Bell’s Batch 9000

Mass hysteria broke out in Atlanta on the release of this beer with single bottle limits are general geek, pant-wetting. I was given a couple on a recent trip to Kentucky without the general, associated madness - thanks Kevin. 12 oz single. Pour is a dark brown/black Porter like affair. Little lace other than a touch of spotty character on the surface. Obviously the ABV impairs any significant head or retention. It ultimately dies to just about zero carbonation which is OK. Nose is an...

Mayflower Thanksgiving Ale

22 oz bottle coutesy of DrDogBeer as part of Secret Santa '09. Thanks Tom. The label says that this is an American take on an English Old Ale - should be interesting. Pour is a very nice, chestnut body with some good clarity. Head, lace and retention are minimal, but largely as expected with the 8.00% ABV tag. Nose and tastes give the same, slightly odd mixture. The beer starts with plenty of malts, and a really quite distinct nutty character but as it drinks the hop character comes more to...

Samuel Adams Utopias

2007 Vintage. Pour is an oily looking, fairly light brown liquid which gives astonishing "legs" in the glass. That, and the searing alcoholic nose, give the game away in terms of the ABV. A touch viscous in the mouth, but what the hell were you expecting?? The nose is simple to place for me. It reminds me of a Harvey's Bristol Cream Sherry. In fact, that, and the tastes which are almost identical, make this basically a sherry to me. It does have more alcohol presence than a normal fortified...

Life & Limb

$9.99 for the 24 oz bottle a la SN Harvest brews. Pour is a dark, chestnut body with some frothy lace sitting on the surface. Little lace, but as expected for the ABV. Surprisingly smooth drinking given the alcoholic content. The beer is very sweet (obviously as a function of the syrup), but also maintains a decent balance of flavors without losing the plot. Alcohol is very well hidden until the back end when it kicks in slightly. Hop profile is lowish Definitely a light, woody note and some...

Charlie (JLS Release #22)

Marketed as, "Charlie 1981" at Taco Mac on the East West Connector, Austell, GA, USA. 16 oz pint. Slightly murky, brown body with good lace. Some chill haze in the glass, not much clarity. Aroma has very hop-based and I could easily feel this ought to be classified as a typical American DIPA. Typically Rogue, the beer seems slightly over-hopped to me, and this beer is essentially a DIPA. Resinous hops, strong, astringent nose and a slight burn. Hops tire the palate quickly in a combination of...

He’Brew Jewbelation Bar Mitzvah (13)

In general I have been a huge fan of the malt-heavy beers that Shmaltz has put out in the Jewbelation, He'Brew series, so I'm delighted to have the chance to try the latest in the series. Always look forward to the annual offering, and given the GA alcohol limit we are getting close to the end of things we will see locally! 22 oz bottle that came from Hop City, Atlanta, GA, USA. Pour is dark brown body with some red highlights. The head is initially good with a mocha colored hue, and...

He’Brew Origin Pomegranate Ale – Barrel-Aged

On tap at The Porter, Atlanta, GA, USA. Left over from a recent He'Brew/Shmaltz event I think. ‎ Pour gives a crystal clear, orange body with some wispy lace and head which ultimately settles to ‎give a thin white film on top of the beer. Looks nice, a bit like lucozade. Similar to the orginal. ‎ Nose has a touch of liquor about it but many a clean edge of alcohol. ‎ The tastes are malty and alcohol laden. Drinks very cleanly with a solvent-like finish that again is...

Stone 13th Anniversary Ale

=== Updated Review 08/10 === OK, it's now a year old, but the total write-off that 14th is, inspired me to re-visit 13th. $6.49 from Highland Beverage, Hiram, GA, USA for the 22 oz bottle. Stone suggest NOT to cellar this, but... ...not quite the clarity from a year ago, but still a great head and super retention. Really frothy and dense. Nice. As expected the malts have come to the fore but it is still a beer that delivers a decent amount of bitterness, especially in the back end. Still a...

He’Brew Rejewvenator (Year Of The Date) 2009

22 oz bottle @$4.99 from Hop City. Atlanta, GA, USA. This is the 2009 version of the Rejewvenator brewed with "All Natural Date Concentrate" and NOT the 2008 fig-based version. It's a new beer. Pour is a scrumptious, dark orange pour with great clarity and some lively carbonation. The head appears noisily and produces a huge, towering, dense ivory, whipped topping to the beer. Great retention, nice lace. Nose and tastes have fruits and dark, brown sugars along with some Belgian candy and yeast...

Terrapin Thirty Strong

Brewed especially for Taco Mac to celebrate 30 years of their existence, this beer is made with 30 ingredients! I understand that Spike calls this "kitchen sink" brewing! 16 oz pint sampled on the day of release at Taco Mac, Perimeter, Atlanta, GA, USA $6.96 for the pint! Hazed, amber appearance this has a Dubbel like murky brown apperance. Head is not large, but it does give some really nice, sticky lace. Nose is a fruity (pineapple), bubblegum and alcohol mix and this finds it's way into the...

Bridge Burner Special Reserve Ale

Mildly amusing story. It's 01/31/09 and the day of the Atlanta Cask Ale tasting. I decide to pop into Green's on Ponce to do some "pre-cask purchasing" and I see this, 22oz bomber perched on a pile of cases, all alone. I knew that this was not in GA at the time, so I was naturally interested and picked it up. Taking it to the register they had terrible trouble locating it in the sysytem; basically it wasn't there. This precipitated 'phonecalls to Adam who was not at the store. Eventually they...

Holy Mackerel Mack In Black

11oz pour at Taco Mac, East West Connector, Austell, GA, USA. Jet black pour that is reminiscent of a stout, but lacks the creamy consistency and mouthfeel that you would normally associate with that style. Thin collar of lace forms. Strong apple cider acidity in the nose that has me a little worried. It almost smells infected! Tastes are better than the nose would suggest. Sweet, mildly alcohol licorice. A little thin and the cider infection taste comes through a touch too. I'm pretty sure...

Bell Ringer

I'd seen these bottles around the ATL for weeks now and decided to dive in finally at the Taco Mac on the East West connector, Austell, GA, USA. 16oz draft pour. $4.75. Viscous orange pour with little carbonation and little head. Lace is scant too which is fair enough considering the ABV. Light hops in the nose that are not overpowering. Not at all cloying in the mouth, in fact rather light. Interesting tastes. Viscous sugar is there amongst the alcohol and hop base, but to my great surprise...

Double Dead Guy Ale

Since re-categorized on BA as an American Strong Ale. === Original Review 10/08 ==== 22 oz bottle - striking in its appearance but I don't know if I like it or not. $9.99 from Green's on Ponce, Atlanta, GA, USA so I am a little worried about the value - that's pricey for a bomber. Right off the bat this is a VERY poor "Dopplebock" (IF indeed that is what it is supposed to be). If the beer IS just a hyped up version of Dead Guy, then I fail to see how it can change style dramatically. I'm...

Chainsaw Ale

750 mL corked & caged bottle. Cloudy and hazed mid-orange/brown body. Nice head, some sticky lace. The color and lack of clarity make this a somewhat unattractive beer. Looks a bit drab. Head and lace are better than the color. Nose reveals a huge, brown sugar type aroma with only a slight, background like solvent alcohol note. This is one sweet brew and with the combination of the hops I get an enormous mouthful of coconut. Quite a sickly sweet beer to me, and this is coming from someone that...

He’Brew Rejewvenator (Year Of The Fig) 2008

I've been delighted by He'Brew so far so I was excited to try this. I was not let down, enjoyable. $4.99 from Green's, Atlanta, GA, USA. 22oz bomber. Partial pour into the Harpoon IPA 500mL glass. Great clarity in the reddish, amber body. Slight reddish hint to the head too. Head is short lived and lace is scant. This is simply a BIG, sweet malt bomb. Hints of tasty fruits (that I was not necessarily be able to tdistinguish as Figs) but they are dark and rich in their nature. Hint of warming...

Brewer’s Ale 2008

Difficult to be absolutely sure if this is the correct listing for the beer that I had at lunchtime today, but for now I think it may be for the following reasons; 1. I drank it at Summit's in Snellville which has a "special" relationship with Rogue. 2. The one other review seems to resemble what I drank. 3. It was listed at the bar as "Brewer Ale". Anyway, a very dark brown pour with a pretty lively, frothy head. The head eventually settles down to yield some nice, spotty and creamy lace. The...

The Angel’s Share – Bourbon Barrel-Aged

750 mL corked & caged affair, many thanks to Lance for the opportunity to share this one. Got together with a few beer lovers at the Brick Store on a Friday afternoon. Pour is essentially black with a nice mocha head. Has a RIS appearance, but the head is not well retained. Rich looking body. Aroma is certainly attractive, with a mild bourbon type smell that again offers a rich character. Taste is largely a smooth, light whisky from the oak but frankly not much else. I'm not a massive fan of...

Glen Ale ( JLS Release #27)

On tap at Charlie Mopps, Sandy Springs, Atlanta, GA, USA. $5.35 for the 16 oz pour. Despite the reputation of Charlie Mopps amongst some, they are still serving their beer in frozen glasses, and you can still barely breathe for the smoke in there....anyway, back to the beer. Simple looking amber our with a nice head, good retention and some sticky, ivory colored lace. A nice looking pint. Simple malt and bitter balance with (for Rogue) a sensible amount of malt backing up the hops. I though it...

He’Brew Jewbelation 11

Green's on Buford, Atlanta, GA, USA. 22 oz bomber. The usual He'Brew style label. Dark, dark brown pour with a little light entering at the bottom of the Imperial pint glass. A dark brown hue is still present at the bottom of the body. Nice mocha like head with plenty of lace. Good looker. I wasn't sure what style to expect, other than what I already knew about He'Brew. I have been impressed by their other, malty, sweet big beers and this was no exception. The description as an American Brown...

Oaked Arrogant Bastard Ale

Combined review of two, 12oz bottles that I recieved from both Hoppymeal and Brewfan in seperate trades. Thanks guys. Initially I have to say that I am a bit confused by this beer. Frankly I hardly get any "oaked" character at all. I guess that there is a very slight vanilla note in there, but without knowing I was drinking this beer I'm not at all sure I would have noticed it. This seems largely like a regular AB to me. If there is one significant difference it's the lack of sweetness that I...

Lagunitas Imperial Red Ale

Quite why I had never bothered to pick this up in Atlanta is totally beyond me, but I suspect that the lack of 22oz bombers (only sixers) of it had something to do with it. Finally got around to trying in on tap at The Brick Store, Decatur, GA, USA. Superb looking beer. Deep, dark crimson color and perfectly formed head. Looks VERY inviting. This beer has ALL of the attributes of an American Strong Ale. Great malt presence, delicious hop profile and the two marry together just about perfectly....

Fat Weasel Ale

12 oz single from Trader Joe's, $1 for the bottle. Pour shows a mid-gold color with some head and surprisingly some lace. This looks (and looks) much more like a lager than an ale. Quite a prevalent alcohol content (seems even higher than it actually is) and the feel is quite viscous too. To me this is a bit of an odd beast. An Ale that feels like a high alcohol malt liquor, but finishes with the bitterness of a Pils. Pretty dry in the finish too. Mild burn on the way down. This brew is a...

He’Brew Origin Pomegranate Ale

22 oz bomber, Jax, Sandy Springs, Atlanta, GA, USA. Very light, orange amber pour with a fast fading, small head and not much lace. A little persistent carbonation. Some fruit in the nose. Taste is a tart, bitterness with a hint of some kind of fruit. I wouldn't recognize it as pomergranate, but there is a sharp grapefruit finish to the beer. The astringent dry, bitterness hangs around for a while too. A little dry and mildly alcoholic in the finish. Some lingering grapefruit juice too. As it...

Brewer (JLS Release #17)

On-tap at the Brick Store, Decatur, GA, USA. Dark, chocolate colored pour with a small head but some decent sticky lacing. Certainly looks above average. Bready, hoppy nose with plenty of character. Rogue is stamped all over this. Huge hops that give a cloying bitterness that is not subtle in the least. The hops cut into the finish and even over-shadow the relatively high ABV. I just can't seem to get to grips with many Rogue beers. Everything seems super-hopped for no apparent reason that...

Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale

Tried a few of these on a recent trip to Lexington, this was the last one in the back of the DBF. Light orange pour wih complete clarity. A very reluctant head that has no stickability at all. Colossal bourbon character right throught the aroma all the way to the end of the taste. Not subtle at all, and although it is quite nice at first it very quickly becomes rather tedious. If I wanted bourbon I'd have ordered bourbon!) In fact so strong and obvious I would almost characterize this as a...

Eye of the Hawk

12 oz single from Mac's downtown, Atlanta, GA, USA. Light color for the style, with a nice amber/orange body and some decent head. The lacing is there but scant and loose. Some sweet malts and some ethanol in the nose. Lots of sweet caramel malts in the taste with a little toffee, and the alcohol is low key - until the finish, when there is a blast of EtOH again. Hops are surprisingly muted for me, with the alcohol replacing the bitterness that I was expecting. I quite like this beer, although...

Monk Madness (JLS Release #18)

Interesting. 22 oz Bomber, Green's, Buford, Atlanta, GA, USA. First off there is nothing "Belgian" about this, nor is there much that makes it a Brown Ale. Typical for Rogue the hops are upfront, huge and out of balance. In this beer the hop presence is ridiculous for a Brown Ale, but not too overwhelming when you consider the Rogue style. Often Rogue can get completely out of hand, here it's just big. This is really a Bitter, or perhaps even close to an Irish/Amber, but either way it's very...

Immort Ale

Bottled 04/05/06 (stamp on neck). 12 oz bottle. Crystal clear, copper colored pour with a small amount of carbonation at first, but this, like the small head, fades very quickly. As others have noted, a certain brandy like aroma. Definite smokiness in the taste (the oak?), along with plenty of alcohol, but it drinks suprisingly smoothly. I think the smoothness is due to the vanilla and maple advertised on the label, but it doesn't really manifest itself as a taste, more of a "feeling"....

Dark Horse Reserve Special Black Bier Ale

Thanks to Beerinator as part of XBIF 39. Pour is jet black with a coffee colored head that is gone pretty quickly. Looks a bit flat to be honest. Aroma and tastes are somewhat befuddled to me with too much going on. There's a fine line between complex and just a bitter, smoky, high alcohol cocktail and this crossed the line several times for me. Lots of important components there withour doubt, but it wasn't very well constructed in my opinion. Certainly in the large department with tastes and...

Stone 9th Anniversary Ale

Bright, golden pour with a light looking, large frothy head. Very nice, very distinctly layered lacing and pretty good retention. Some chill haze, but this is a very attractive looking brew. Some light, sweet hops in the nose. Taste continues to reflect that with sweetness alongside the well defined hop profile. Some lingering bitterness in the finish. I get a little yeast taste upfront too, accompanied by some dryish powder feel. Definitely some "tinny" metallic aftertaste too. Mouthfeel has...

Rapscallion Creation

Sorry, didn't really get this one. Coca-Cola like appearance with a very thin, very light-gone instantly type of head. No lacing, no retention. Mildly acidic taste that was reminiscent of apples or an acidic fruit like rhubarb. Cider like in the aroma and the taste. Rough on the palate, burns a little on the way down. Some alcohol comes through but it is well hidden for such a large ABV. Doesn't make up for the odd combination of tastes and flavors. Slightly burned, weak instant coffee...

Great Lakes Nosferatu

Copper body and decent head and lacing. Solid looking beer. Aroma is strongly hop based and some little malt. It's not a bad beer, but it has one really bad characteristic. There seems to be an artificial and very strong bitterness throughout the whole drink. This is not a hop bitterness, rather a metallic sharpness that detracts from everything else. Mouthfeel is OK, with a smoothness, but cloying dry bitter finish. I'm afraid the extra bitter taste detracts from the whole...

Arrogant Bastard Ale

Utterly delicious with the perfect combination of a sweet start and a hop finish. The pour is dark brown with great clarity and a lovely half-inch of solid looking head. Lots of sticky lacing. Lovely, almost orange colored head. Aroma's are hops, but not too large and they intice you into a gulping of the first few inches in the glass. Refreshing, tasty and satisfying, this stuff slips down with an alarming ease. The alcohol is obviously there, but compliments the rest of the attributes...

Wailing Wench

Dark mahogany pour, with a splendid looking rocky head. Some sticky lace. This is a rich, thick and substantial beer that reminded me much more of a Barleywine than the DIPA. Loads of rich hops greet the nose, with that classic grapefruit, citrus sourness, but also with oodles of complex malts. This drank really heavily and it punched every bit of its 9.00 ABV. Mouthfeel was oily and syrupy like a Barleywine. I think I may have been deceived by the beer since I drank a really light, but hoppy...

Double Bastard Ale

=== Updated Review, '06 Vintage 11/24/07 === That cloudy, dark orange, chill hazed appearance remains. Lots of malts up front that continue to balance the high hops. Drinkaility remains very high considering the ABV. === Original Review, '05 Vintage 03/08/05 === A much better experience that I was anticipating. I was expecting a lot of hops, but was pleasantly suprised by the balance of this brew and the prominence of the malt character. Beautiful, deep mahogany pour, just a classic looking...

Hairy Eyeball Ale

Subsequently (just arrived in GA Feb 2 2007) 12 oz bottle at Taco Mac, Marietta, GA, USA. $5.00. A litle more ethanol in the finish than I remember from the past. It drinks less smooth than Brown Shugga (for example) desite the BS being a higher ABV. Very attractive, dark amber/copper pour with a lovely ivory colored, tight head. Great looking beer. Aroma's are malty and significant alcohol, but tempered by the sugary sweetness that comes through strong. A "warm" aroma - very inviting. This is...

Brown Shugga’

Golden brown pour with some cloudiness, very little head, no retention or any significant lacing. Yes, the sugar is very evident all around, through the sweet aroma, the clinging taste, the aftertaste and the slick mouthfeel. The high ABV is also noticeable, but this beer does pull it off - just. Wave after wave of warming alcohol, but the drinkability is high (at least for the first glass). I couldn't drink a lot of this, I don't know many that could, but nontheless a good sipper. Some dry...